At 25, Julia Garner has already carved out a career by playing anything but the girl next door. In her early days â that is, a mere eight years ago â she was part of the ensemble of 2011âs Martha Marcy May Marlene before her indie breakout came in Electrick Children a year later. She then nabbed small parts in bigger movies like Sin City: A Dame to Kill For and The Perks of Being a Wallflower, followed by a critically acclaimed recurring role on FXâs The Americans. Now sheâs gotten her first Emmy nomination for her role as Ruth Langmore in Netflixâs Ozark. Though Garner isnât the âItâ girl of yore, sheâs got âItâ and manages to bring âItâ to every one of her âweird roles,â as sheâd call them.
âThe first place that I was getting recognized was in coffeehouses in Brooklyn. It was film students and hipsters in Brooklyn referencing Electrick Children or We Are What We Are,â she tells me. âBut if I was on the Upper West Side or near Lincoln Center, people would recognize me for The Americans.â Nowadays in her native New York City, Garner says she gets recognized most for playing Ruth, the spicy townie to Jason Batemanâs Marty Byrde in Ozark. The drama received three Emmys in 2018 and nine nominations this year, including a second for Batemanâs directing.
Beyond Ozark, Garner has been busy this year: In February, she was filming Kitty Greenâs The Assistant, in which she plays the titular aide to an abusive producer in a toxic work environment in the entertainment industry. But sheâs quick to correct that itâs not about Harvey Weinstein.
âThis girl is fairly new in the business,â Garner explains about the role. âShe probably just got out of school and sheâs struggling with whatâs right and whatâs wrong, but she still wants to keep her job. For people who maybe have worked in an abusive environment and they are like, I said something! Iâm like, No you didnât, you wanted to keep your job. Itâs about that. Itâs not about Weinstein. There [have been] so many cases, so itâs about not forgetting them, not having to go back to square one, where we were.â
In between late-night shoots for Ozark, Garner spoke with Vulture about Langmoreâs identity crisis, the showâs upcoming third season, and why sheâs okay never playing âshy girl in the corner reading a book at a party.â
âFuck nuggetâ is one of my favorite swears from Ruth. Do you have a favorite?
âSkinny bitch.â Remember in season two, when she kicked that guy in the wheelchair and then she kicked the other guy? She was like, âShut up skinny bitch!â That was pretty funny. But it has to always come down to âfuck nugget.â Out of respect for the writers, I had to deliver that line perfectly [switches to Ruthâs twang]: âShut your fuck-nugget mouth and get the hell out!â
I love how you go right into her voice.
When you know somebody for so long, you can just tap right into it. When Iâve been doing other things for months and then go back to Ozark, Iâm like, Oh my God, what if I forget the character? But then once I do it, itâs fine. I know this person.
Whose idea was that accent? Or was it written into the script?
The accent happened by accident. About a year before, Iâd done a movie [Tomato Red] with a Missouri accent, so reading about Ruth and knowing that she grew up in a trailer, I just thought, This girlâs got a Missouri accent. I went to the audition, and they were in tiny casting offices [where] the walls are so thin that you can hear other people saying the lines that youâre going to do in five minutes. Itâs really nerve-racking and terrible. So, Iâm in the waiting room and I can hear everybody saying their lines and they donât have an accent. I had memorized my lines with an accent, and I just couldnât do it without it. I thought that I wouldnât get the job because of it. Then, a week later I got a call back. Now, it makes perfect sense that she has an accent. The show is so much about class system and identity, and I feel like [the accent] adds an extra layer.
Do you think audiences feel conflicted about Ruth? Not that anyone is particularly moral on this show, but sheâs certainly not moral either.
The audience sees Ruth constantly take her mask on and off. Sheâs always trying to play like sheâs okay and sheâs tougher than she is, but once sheâs left alone in a room, thereâs always a very sad look lingering on her. It kind of naturally happened. When you play a character for so long, you start feeling what that personâs feeling.
Ruthâs arc has changed so much from between seasons. Whatâs it been like to develop her like that?
I love it. You donât want the same arc. I feel my characters are not characters; I see them as people. You canât really judge them. And I love that [the writers] change her all the time. Well, I donât want to say âchangeâ because every year, people evolve, good or bad.
Iâve heard Ruth might âevolveâ into the Byrde family in season three âŚ
The Langmore breed is dying out and I think Ruth is struggling between her identities. Last year, she was losing her sense of self, which is kind of an identity crisis. But this year, sheâs conflicted about whether sheâs a Byrde or a Langmore. She hasnât processed her fatherâs murder, but then again, thatâs a given that she wouldnât. Ruth doesnât process anything dramatic that happens to her â then it catches up to her and she explodes. It didnât sink in that she killed her uncle and that she was living a lie and then it exploded. Itâs going to be a similar thing in season three, but in a different way.
Youâve been acting for less than a decade, but you have done so much in that time. Has there been a method to the madness?
I feel very lucky. There are always parts for young girl love interests, or cheerleaders, or mean girls, or the shy girl in the corner reading a book at a party who doesnât know how pretty she is, but sheâs really a beauty. You know what I mean? Thatâs unrealistic. Iâm really happy that Iâve never gotten those. At an early age, I knew that I wasnât going to get those roles. Not that Iâm ugly, but Iâm not Hollywood-standard beautiful or that simple beauty. I was kind of weird looking, different looking. Especially at 16, I had weird curly hair and I had a gap tooth. I still have my gap tooth. I still look the same. So, I get cult members. I get pregnant Mormon girls. I get cannibals. I got a girl who was in love with a KGB secret agent who wore weird glasses. And even now, Iâve got Ruth.
Another word for âweirdâ is complex.
That is a better word â complex parts. My most normal part was probably in Grandma and still, something was off with her. I still had to get an abortion.
And now youâve got your first Emmy nomination. How does it feel?
Itâs just so surreal, I canât even wrap my head around it. When I was a kid, I knew about the three big awards shows â the Oscars, the Emmys, and the Tonys. It just doesnât feel real. The months leading up, Iâd been in work mode â Iâm still in work mode â but I just wasnât thinking much about the Emmys. And then two days before [the nominations], I got really nervous. I didnât even think about me, it was more worried for the show, like, What if the show isnât even nominated? That would be terrible. The day of, I put my phone on airplane mode. Later that day, my friends FaceTimed me and they told me.