In director Paolo Sorrentino’s upcoming drama Youth, a meditation on fame and aging being released by Fox Searchlight on December 4, we see octogenarian British composer Fred Ballinger (Michael Caine) retreat to a spa in the Alps, where he meets a disaffected, Sean Penn–esque American actor (Paul Dano). In this exclusive Vulture clip, the two artists swap philosophical musings on the perils of creating for the masses.